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     Cecily de Romelli was the daughter of Robert de Romelli.
     Cecily de Romelli married William de Meschin Lord of Copeland.
     Lady of Skipton & Harewood. Founded Embsay Priory in 1120/21, her husband gave Skipton Church to it the same year. She gave the Priory the mill at Harewood. She married secondly William de Traches (as is supposed on the authority of a single charter) (Speight). She outlived her husband and sons.
     The History of Cumberland v. 2, The Abbey of Calden, in the barony of copeland it lists Ranulph Meschines who deeded land 10 Jan 1134 and his brother William Meschines the priori of Bees. Ranulph and brother-in-law William son of Duncan confirm a land grant to the abbey by Cecily (of above) along with Beatrice de Molle who bestowed to the monks 5 oxgangs in Little Gilcrux and 1/4 of the Mill in Great Gilcrux confirmed by Adam son of Uchtred her Uncle, as the gift of William, his nephew as the charter of said William son of Liolf de Molle testified".
     Cecily de Romelli married Henry de Tracy after 1135.
     Cecily died between 1151 and 1155. There is some evedience to suppose that she was alive in 1151, but cannot have survived as late as 1155..

     After the conquest, the manor of Harewood with Skipton and all Craven was granted to Robert de Romelli [Parker]. Lord of Harewood 1080, Lord of Skipton. "Granted the great fee of Skipton in Craven and Lordship of Harewood shortly after the completion of Domesday (1087). Built Skipton Castle. [?Speight]

     Of ancient & eminent Normandy family according to Gabriel de Moulin. Farrer p 129: Gave to the Abbey of St Martin Troarm the Church of St Andrew Wheatenhurst Glos. with the priests lands & tithes ... Mapower Dorset... Molland ...Spitchwick Devon, ... Warkleigh which Henry I confirmed 110-1103. These lands came to William Meschin by his marriage to Cecily daughter of Robert.. Robert de Romelli was born before 1065 in England.
     Robert died after 1096 in England.

     Cecily de Romelli or FitzDuncan was the daughter of William FitzDuncan Earl of Moray and Alice or Adeliza de Romelli.
     Cecilia, Lady of Skipton. Countess of Aumale.
Confirmed the grant of her husband Alexander Fitz-Gerald de Walton, to the Canons of Southwark..
     Cecily de Romelli or FitzDuncan married Alexander Fitzgerald, son of Unknown Gerald. As her first marriage.
     Cecily de Romelli or FitzDuncan married William le Gros Count of Aumale as her second husband..
     Cecily died between 1188 and 1190 in England.
     Cecily de Romelli or FitzDuncan and Amabel FitzDuncan (de Lucy), William de Fortibus Earl of Albemarle, Skipton, William de Fortibus and Richard Lucy were mentioned in 1302?.

     She was the widow of William Pagenel, Lord of Leeds, Bingley etc. co. York. He was dead in 1138. She retained the name of Romelli. Inherited Harewood & Irby co. Lincoln. Benefactress to Arthington & Bolton priories. Gave lands to nuns of Arthington & the canons of Embsay. Gave the church at Harewood towards the maintenance of the chapel of St Mary & Holy Angels at York.

     Northumberland Families / W Percy Hedley Vol 2 p.8-9: Walter de Perci (son of Alan, son of William, was 3rd husband of Avice, daughter of Wm Meschin, widow of William de Curci & Wm Paynel of Drox. She inherited from her father Rougemont in Harewood - therefore called Walter de Rougemont. Issue Robert.

     By the division of the baorny of William Meschin, all his lands in co. Lincoln, Dorset, Somerset & Devon, with Harewood and its members in Wharfedale, co. York, went to the elder heiress. The Yorkshire lands were tabled as held of the King the manors of Harewood, East Keswick, Stockton, Wike, Lofthouse, Stub Hose, Alwoodley, Horsforth, Rawdon, Yeadon, [Brandon], [Wigton], Leathley, Weeton, Stainburn, Castley. From the lands of Gospatric they held Weton & Weardley. From the land of the King's thegns the held Weeton, Dun-Keswick & Rigton. [Farrer, W. Early Yorkshire charters, p.468-9]..
     Avice or Amice de Romelli or Meschin married William Paynel. Avice or Amice de Romelli or Meschin was born before 1108 in England. She was the daughter of William de Meschin Lord of Copeland and Cecily de Romelli.
     Avice or Amice de Romelli or Meschin married William de Curci II Baron, son of William de Curcy and Daughter of William de Falaise, circa 1125.
     Avice or Amice de Romelli or Meschin married Walter de Perci before 1153.
     Avice died circa 1176 in England.

     Maurice Ronalds married Edith Victoria Murphy, daughter of William George Murphy and Edith Mary Fox, in May 1937 in Victoria.
     Maurice died in August 1944.

     Norman William Ronalds was born on 15 November 1939 in Victoria, Australia. He was the son of Maurice Ronalds and Edith Victoria Murphy.
     Norman died on 27 May 1957 aged 17.

     Mary Ronane and Michael Colbert obtained a marriage licence in 1809 in Cork, Ireland.

     Laurent Rondolin was born circa 1884.
     The marriage of Laurent Rondolin and Mabel Florence Martin, daughter of Robert Sigsworth Martin and Sarah Griffin, was registered in the quarter ending in March 1913 in St Olave Bermondsey RD, Surrey. They co-habited before 1911. After her death he re-married Nellie Gertrude Horwood in the Lewisham district of Kent in 1916.

     Her birth was registered in the quarter ending in June 1914 in Bermondsey RD, Surrey. Ruby J Rondolin was the daughter of Laurent Rondolin and Mabel Florence Martin.

     Edward Rookes (Leeds) was born in 1713. He was the son of William Rookes and Mary Rodes.
     Edward Rookes (Leeds) married Mary Leeds in 1740.
     Edward died in 1788 in Wibsey, Yorkshire.

     John Rookes Esq married Unknown Ryther, daughter of Sir Ralph Ryther and Maude or Matilda Percy.

     William Rookes married Mary Rodes, daughter of William Rodes and Mary Wilson, on 27 January 1712/13.

     Alexander de Ros was the son of Sir Robert de Ros Fursan and Isabel Avenal of Scotland.

     Sir Alexander de Ros was born in England. He was the son of Sir William de Ros and Lucy FitzPiers.
     Sir Alexander de Ros and Lucy de Ros, Lucy de Ros and Sir John de Ros were mentioned on 14 January 1280.

     Alice de Ros was the daughter of Sir William de Ros and Lucy FitzPiers.
     Alice de Ros married Sir John Comyn. She was his second wife and they had a son John of Ulceby, Lincs. Her father had granted her free warren in Ulceby. She married secondly Sir James Byron about 1277.
     Alice died on 29 April 1286.

     Alice de Ros was born in Ingmanthorpe, Yorkshire. She was the daughter of Sir William de Ros (of Ingmanthorpe) and Eustace Fitzralph.
     Alice de Ros married Geoffrey St Quintin.

     Avelina de Ros was the daughter of Sir Robert de Ros 1st Baron and Isabel D'Aubigne.
     Avelina de Ros married Sir John Bohun (of Midhurst).

     Edmund de Ros 11th Baron was born in 1446. He was a follower of the House of Lancaster during the Wars of the Roses, and regained his family title after the accession of King Henry VII of England.
As a result of his father's attainder, he went into exile. Under Henry VII, who united the houses of York and Lancaster, the attainder was reversed; and Edmund, Lord Ros, was reinstated in his ancestral property; Belvoir had been in the possession of the Hastings family for more than twenty years. In the petition to parliament, presented by Lord Ros, November, 1483, his claims are stated with great moderation, and his sufferings for his loyalty to King Henry VI are not overstated.
About nine years later, Sir Thomas Lovel, who married Isabel, Edmund's sister, presented a petition to parliament, stating that Edmund was "not of sufficient discretion to guide himself and his livelihood; nor able to serve his sovereign after his duty" and asking "that he might have the guidance and governance of the said Edmund" and all his property. An act of parliament was passed, giving full powers to Sir Thomas Lovel over the person and property of Lord Ros, and entire possession of the latter at is death; upon trust for the other relatives of Lord Ros, reserving only a rent of seven hundred marks to the king, and the right, title, and interest of those who have, or ought to have, possession or occupation of certain portions of the property.
Edmund, Lord Ros, lived at the manor of Elsinges, at Enfield, which he had inherited from his mother, and was probably kept under restraint. On his death, and was buried in the church at Enfield, on the north side of the altar; where his monument is an arch, erected over the tomb of Lady Joyce Tiploft, his maternal grandmother, and charged with the arms of Ros quartering Badlesmere. Since Edmund had no children, his sisters were his heirs; and Elsinges became the property of his brother in law, Sir Thomas Lovel, who, at his death, in 1524, bequeathed it to his great-nephew, Thomas Manners, 1st Earl of Rutland, in 1526. Eleanor, the eldest sister and co-heir of Edmund, Lord Ros, married Sir Robert Manners, of Ethale, in the county of Northumberland. Eleanor was therefore the grandmother of Thomas Manners, 1st Earl of Rutland. He was the son of Thomas de Ros 10th Baron.
     Edmund died on 13 October 1508.

     Eleanor de Ros was the daughter of Thomas de Ros 10th Baron.
     Eleanor de Ros married Sir Robert Manners.
     Eleanor de Ros married Sir Robert Manners.

     Lord of Helmsley. Benefactor of the abbeys of Newminster & Rievaulx.
Everard de Ros, son and heir,(i) was still a minor in 1166.(j) He adhered to the King in the rebellion of 1173.(k) He m. Roese, 1st sister and coh., in her issue sole heir, of Robert, and da. of William, TRUSSEBUT, lord of Warter, E.R. Yorks, by Aubreye de HARCOURT.(l) He d. in 1183, before Mich.(m) His widow was said to be aged 34 in 1185, and to have two sons, the elder aged 13.(n) She was living in the summer of 1194 and d. before Mich. 1196. Everard de Ros was born circa 1144. He was still a minor in 1166. He was in wardship to Ranulph de Glanvil. He was the son of Robert de Ros and Sibyl de Valognes.
     Everard de Ros married Rose Trussebut, daughter of William Trussebut Lord of Warter and Aubrey de Harcourt.
     In 1176 he paid the then large sum of five hundred and twenty-six pounds as a fine for his lands, and other large amounts subsequently.
     Everard died in 1183.

     Everard de Ros was born before 1109. Everard de Ros, s. and h.,(g) was of age in 1130, when he rendered account for 2 marks of gold that he might no longer be steward of William de Aumale.(h). He was the son of Piers or Peter de Ros and Adeline Espec.
     He confirmed (1138-40) the church of Atwick to Bridlington Priory, for the soul of Eustache, his wife, and, somewhat later, notified his br. Robert and others that he had quitclaimed land to Whitby Abbey.(i)
In I144-46 he attested, with his overlord William, Count of Aumale, the Archbishop's charter to Beverley.Q) He m. Eustache (see above). He d. in or before 1153.
(g) See note "h" below. Archbishop Thurstan confirmed (circa 1130-33) the church of Atwick to Bridlington Priory, with consent of Everard, s. of Piers (Ear Yorks Charters, vol. iii, p. 82).
(h) Pipe Roll, 31 Hen. I, P. 32.
(i) Early Yorks Charters, vol. iii, p. 52; Lancaster, Bridlington Chartulary pp. 312, 430; Whithy Chartulary, Surtees Soc., vol. i, no. 248.
(j) Early Yorks Charters, vol. i, p. 101.
(k) See follg. note.
He is mentioned in his brother's charter to Rievaulx..
     Everard died circa 1153.

     Sir Herbert de Ros was born in England. He was the son of Sir William de Ros and Lucy FitzPiers.

     Isabel de Ros was born circa 1244. She was the daughter of Sir Robert de Ros 1st Baron and Isabel D'Aubigne.
     Isabel de Ros married Walter de Fauconberg 2nd Lord.
     Isabel died on 12 June 1356.

     Isabel de Ros was the daughter of Sir William de Ros (of Ingmanthorpe) and Eustace Fitzralph.
     Isabel de Ros married Marmaduke Thwenge circa 1278.

     Ivette de Ros was the daughter of Sir William de Ros (of Ingmanthorpe) and Eustace Fitzralph.
     Ivette de Ros married Geoffrey le Scrope (Lord of Masham).
     Ivette died before 1331. She was buried in Coverham Abbey, Yorkshire.

     Joan de Ros was born circa 1252. She was the daughter of Sir Robert de Ros 1st Baron and Isabel D'Aubigne.
     Joan died on 13 October 1348. She married John Lovell, 1st Baron Lovell of Tichmarch.

     John de Ros was born in 1386. He was the eldest son of William de Ros, 7th Baron de Ros and Margaret Fitzalan. His mother was a daughter of John Fitzalan and Eleanor Maltravers.
He served as a soldier of Henry V of England during the Hundred Years' War. Six years after the Battle of Agincourt, John participated in the Battle of Baugé. He was among the casualties along with his brother William de Ros, Thomas of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Clarence, the governor of Normandy and others. He was buried at the Belvoir Priory.
He was married to Margaret Despencer but no children are known to have resulted from this marriage. He was the son of William de Ros 7th Baron.
     John died in 1421.

     This John is probably the father of Lucy Audley/Ryther, not the son of Robert as stated in "Complete Peerage". Sir John de Ros was born in Yorkshire. He was the son of Sir William de Ros and Lucy FitzPiers.
     Sir John de Ros and Lucy de Ros, Lucy de Ros and Sir Alexander de Ros were mentioned on 14 January 1280. There is speculation that Lucy's reputed father John was really her brother and both were siblings of Robert her reputed grandfather.

     John de Ros 6th Baron was born in 1365. He was the son of Thomas de Ros 5th Baron.
     John died in 1394 in Pathos, Cyprus.

     John de Ros Bishop of Carlisle was the son of Sir Robert de Ros 1st Baron and Isabel D'Aubigne.
     John Ravilious wrote on the Medieval Mailing list: The statement in the IPM of 1491 identifying John de Ros as 'son of Robert Roos' appears to be in error. In a prior post, I noted that John de Ros may well have been the brother, not the son of Sir Robert de Ros (d. 1285). Two reasons support that suggestion:
1. The fine dated 1280 provides for reversion of the manors to John de Ros, 'with remainders to Alexander, John's brother...' Sir Robert de Ros (d. 1285) had no known son Alexander; however, he did have younger brothers John and Alexander, the latter of whom was identified in a charter of Sir Robert, enfeoffing Thomas de Werke, chaplain, in certain lands in Helmsley, dated 1264x1285. This charter was witnessed by his brothers Sir Peter, Sir William, Sir Alexander and Sir Herbert ("Hiis testibus: Dominis Petro de Ros, Willelmo de Ros, Alexandro de Ros, Herberto de Ros, militibus et fratribus..")[3]
2. The chronology of the generations does not readily support the filiation in the 1491 IPM (and in CP XI:8). Sir William de Ros, eldest son and heir of Sir Robert, was born 1255 or before (he was aged 30 and more at his father's death), and his mother Isabel de Aubigny was born ca. 1233. It is not reasonable to place Lucy de Ros, widow of Henry de Audley b. 1251, d. 1276 or before) and married 2ndly in 1280 or before to William de Ryther, as the daughter of a man (son of Sir Robert de Ros and Isabel de Aubigny) who would himself likely have been born 1255 or later, and very possibly after 1260.
If in fact Lucy was the daughter of John de Ros, he was therefore certainly the brother, not son, of Sir Robert. Lucy his daughter would therefore have been the namesake of her paternal grandmother, Lucy (daughter of Piers fitz Herbert of Blaen Llyfni).
The identification of Lucy, wife of (1) Henry de Audley and (2) Sir William de Ryther as daughter of John de Ros is not proven, but is probable based on the evidence in hand. The entail of Gildehusdale and the other lands on 'the heirs of Lucy's body', with reversion to John de Ros and remainder to his brother Alexander, is indicative of a family transaction.
     Fine dated 1280: 28. York. Morrow of Hil. 8 Edw I. Before the same. Between John, son of Robert de Ros of Hamelak, quer., and William de Rither, deforc., of the manors of Rither, Schardecroft, Gyldhusum' and the advowson of Rither church. Covenant. John's right as of William's gift. John and his heirs to hold of the chief lords. William and his heirs to warrant. For a sore sparrowhawk.
This feoffment was the first stage of a settlement. The second fine as given by John took place very soon after, on February 2 1280.
54. York. Morrow of Cand. Before the same. Between William de Ryther, quer., and John de Ros, deforc., of the manors of Ryther, Scarthecroft and Gildehus' with the advowson of Ryther church. Covenant. John's right. William and Lucy his wife and the heirs of Lucy's body to hold of the chief lords with remainder to William and reversion after William's death to John and the heirs of his body with remainders to Alexander, John's brother, and the heirs of his body and to William's next heirs.

Rosie Bevan wrote: The two fines had a threefold purpose - feoffment, marriage jointure, and protection against wardship of the lands in case of a minority.
That Gildersdale was of the fee of Ros at the time of the settlement, there is no question - it is listed in Feudal Aids with Robert's holding as chief lord given in the past tense, meaning its tenure was recorded just after his decease in 1285. Its two carucates had descended to the Ros family via the Trussebuts, with William de Ros inheriting it on the death of his aunt Agatha in 1247. It is possible that John had been enfeoffed in this manor, but there are indications that Rithers were tenants long before it passed into Ros posession, and the marriage settlement shows that it was unlikely to have been Lucy's maritagium.
The settlement of the Ryther lands on Lucy and her issue is characteristic of a jointure, an increasingly preferred method of marrying off daughters without reducing the family estate by the end of the thirteenth century. A sum of money passed hands as the bride's marriage portion, and in return there was a settlement of the groom's lands on her for life. The jointure also protected the issue of the marriage from claims by other children of the husband from earlier or later marriages. Most importantly if the husband died leaving a widow and underage children, the lord did not have wardship of that land.
John de Ros must have been related to Lucy in some way. Usually the principals of a marriage jointure were the father or brother providing dowry, but in this case it is possible that being a secondary marriage it was only a small one, and with Lucy's youth, William Rither was more interested in her Audley dower. Chronology goes against Lucy being daughter of John, but she may certainly have been a younger daughter of Robert de Ros and Isabel D'Aubigny who were married around 1244. We would expect them to have had a daughter called Lucy, named after Robert's mother. At a guess it is possible that John and Alexander were clerics and did not expect to leave heirs. The reversion to them on the death of William in the event of lack of heirs would represent a refund of the marriage portion, with the lands ultimately passing to William's right heirs after their death.
As it happens, the Ryther lands did pass down William's direct line, so the fine clearly served its primary intent. Notably, while Scarcroft and Ryther descended with his heirs, there is no mention of Gildersdale in the 1491 inquisition for Robert Ryther, so it appears to have passed out of the family in the intervening 211 years.
     A record of a deed done during his mother's lifetime, before 15 June 1301:
[Late 13th cent.] - Deed of feoffment by Richard, the clerk, son of Philip de Beuver to John son of Sir Robert de Ros, of a toft and croft, with appurtenances, within and without the vill of Beuver, lying between the king's (high) way and the land of William the miller, and formerly held by Alice le Rede, to be held of the lady Isabel de Ros and
her heirs by the due and accustomed services.
Hiis testibus: Johanne Wade de Botlisford tunc ballivo de Beuver; Rogero Wade de Botlisford; Roberto Basset de Wlstorp; Galfrido Kingesheie de Beuver; Roberto pistore de eadem. Pointed oval seal of Richard.
     John died in 1332. They was mentioned at the Inquisition Post Mortem held in Yorkshire on 3 August 1491 on the death of Sir Robert Ryther. Robert Ryther, knt. Writ wanting; inquisition 3 Aug 6 Hen.VII. He died seized of the under-mentioned moiety of the manor of Harwod in tail male, by the gift of Thomas Thwates, and William Barker, made by way of fine, with the King's licence, to one William Ryther, Knt, and Sibyl his wife, thereof, in tail male, with remainder in default to the right heirs, he being cousin and heir male of the said William and Sibyl, viz., son of William, son of William their son.
He also died seized in tail male of the under-mentioned manor and advowson of Ryther, by virtue of the gift thereof made by John son of Robert Roos, by way of fine and with the King's licence, to one William Ryther and Lucy his wife in tail male, with remainder to the right heirs of the said William, he being cousin and heir male of the said William and Lucy, viz, son of William, son of William, son of William, son of Robert, son of Robert, son of Robert their son.
He died the last day of June last, seized of the under-mentioned manors and lands in fee. Ralph Ryther, esq. aged 40 or more, is his brother and next heir.
York. A moiety in the manor of Harwod, in Harwod, Dunkyswyk and Helthwayt, worth 25l., held of the King in chief, by service of 1/4 of a knight's fee.
Manor and advowson of the parish church of Ryther, in Ryther, Ossendak, and Stokbryge, worth 100 marks, held of the King, as of the duchy of Lancaster, as of the honour of Pontfrett, by service of 1/8 of a knight's fee.
Manor of Skarcroft, worth 10l., held of Henry Wavasour, knt., by the rent of a rose in the time of roses if required.
A moiety of the manor of Kyrkeby Overblowers, worth 4 marks, held of Henry, Earl of Northumberland, as of the manor of Spofford, by fealty, other services unknown.
Three messuages and 40 a. meadow and pasture in Kyrkeby on Wharffe, worth 40s, held of the King, as of the duchy of Lancaster, by fealty only.